Best Aftermarket EFI Components?

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Re: Best Aftermarket EFI Components?

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Differences between "Economy" and "Daily Driver". SMP is up front re the difference:
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$15 price difference isn't enough for many Scorpio guys (how many are "Daily Drivers"?) to choose the "Economy" T unit over the "Daily Driver" unit, but $15 "savings" to some on tighter budgets might make cents er sense.

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I'm with brokencase... T series at your own peril. That stuff is 100% Walmart mentality... buy the cheapest thing you can to get past the crisis even if it means doing it again in six months. It's penny smart, pound foolish. I'm down to save money, but if saving money makes you late for work or ends in calling a tow truck, what have you saved?

My XR has been towed twice in 15+ years ... and for the exact same problem. The first time I wrote it off to bad luck, the second time I stopped buying Dorman parts altogether.
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"Booming business at dollar stores shows the widening gulf between haves and have-nots during pandemic"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... ar-stores/

Buy the better if not best. If you can afford it. Not everyone can.

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Dollar stores are complicated problem and have literally nothing to do with Merkurs.
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Hmm... I wonder what Pirsig/Phaedrus would have to say on the subject? (i.e., quality)
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Probably a lot, but I'm not sure how clear any of it would be. ;)
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Yeah, you should probably have an attitude/altitude "cloud" adjustment before or after reading to get the most out of each chapter. :D
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I had a pretty sheltered childhood, and I think my high school librarian was wise to my circumstances.. his recommendation were Zen and The Electric Koolaid Acid Test. I don't recall if there was a particular order, but looking back I think there should have been. ;)
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And then from there it was Carlos Castenada and the whole fact vs. fiction debate, which is secondary to the excuse for us college kids to try something in the name of creating "a mystical perspective," hidden powers, and an alternative meaning of life. OK, and sex if you had good sources...
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Haha, exactly!
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thesameguy wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 4:47 pm Dollar stores are complicated problem and have literally nothing to do with Merkurs.
The point is that manufacturers (SMP, above) are proceding rationally in making a product for a specific marker segment ("T" designation) that might not find its premium unit affordable yet meets purchasers' requirements and expectations.

[Dollar stores are only seen as a problem to effete snobs.]

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You probably advocate for payday loan outlets on every street corner. You know, to help the poor get by. Throw in a McDonald's too, right?

Dollar stores are a problem for mom & pop business, grocery stores, and people who struggle meeting basic nutritional needs. They make processed and nutritionally vacant foods cheap and drive out local suppliers of fresh food. Saturating small markets and eradicating local competition is literally their business model and the effects are well documented. There is a reason why municipalities - especially economically disadvantages ones - are increasingly banning them.

While the cheap $#!* often solves the right now problem it creates it own set of problems down the road. That's true of dollar stores selling boxed dinners and parts suppliers selling substandard componentry. The "buy now pay later" has multiple meanings, and its ubiquity in American culture is in no small part responsible for some of the most pointed economic strife in this country.
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Of course it depends on what the part is. I generally won't sweat it if I install a fuse from the dollar store.

Other parts are more critical.

Think about the O2 sensor. I believe it is unwise to install anything different than the original Bosch unit.
There are too many variables associated that a third party might overlook. It's heated, it has a certain thermal mass,
it was based on an earlier chemistry, etc...

Rockauto has five different O2 sensors for the Scorpio. The only one I would trust is the Delphi part (for those not aware Delphi is Ford's automotive electronics division spun off). All the other O2 sensors they offer are skinny. Why does Delphi's O2 sensor still have the "fat" design of the original Bosch sensor? Even in this case I'd still look around for NOS Bosch unit.

I've spent many years in embedded software development and have been bitten in the a$$ countless times where the software was broken when a part substitution was made. You try your best to write agnostic code that is widely tolerant but sometimes there is unpredictable phenomena.

The flip side of this is that it is possible that some of the newer, skinny designs of O2 sensors might be better than the original design.
For example they might last longer. This is fine, I just don't want to do the experiment to find this out.

Then there are the cases where you just don't have a choice. There is only one vendor making the part you need.
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Fuel Pressure Regulator is another example.

Ever wonder why DELPHI FP10507 is so much more expensive compared to all the other offerings?

I wonder. In fact I'm thinking about buying one.
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