Importing a Cosworth

General discussion relating to club happenings and items related to Merkurs in general such as "Merkur sightings". If you just signed on, please feel to start a new thread and introduce yourself here. Posts specifically regarding either the XR4Ti or Scorpio should go in those specific forums. Feel free to make suggestions on improving this forum here as well.
Merkur Club web site
Shigma
Level 3
Level 3
Posts: 271
Joined: Wed Apr 28, 2004 12:13 pm
Location: West Hartford, CT

Importing a Cosworth

Post by Shigma »

So a spin on the for sale thread... I'm thinking of a way to import a car without the large expense. This paragraph in the DOT's website seems to provide a loophole
A disassembled vehicle that is shipped without an engine and transmission is treated for importation purposes not as a motor vehicle, but instead as an assemblage of motor vehicle equipment items. Such an assemblage can lawfully be imported into the U.S., provided any equipment included in the assemblage that is subject to FMVSS, but was not originally manufactured to comply with that FMVSS or was not so certified by its original manufacturer, is removed from the assemblage prior to entry into the U.S. Equipment items that are subject to the FMVSS include tires, rims, brake hoses, brake fluid, seat belt assemblies, glazing materials, and lamps, reflective devices, and associated equipment.
My next question is, what is not FMVSS compliant on a sierra? The bumper? Its got tires, rims, brake hoses, brade fluid, seatbelts, brakelights and reflectors right?

Then there's this
If the assemblage is shipped with an engine and power train (even if those components are not installed), it would be regarded for importation purposes as a motor vehicle, and would have to be either manufactured to comply with all applicable FMVSS, and be so certified by its original manufacturer, in the form of a label permanently affixed to the vehicle, or be determined eligible for importation by NHTSA and be imported by an RI or by a person who has a contract with an RI to bring the vehicle into compliance with all applicable FMVSS after importation.
So you have to ship the engine/trans seperately, but once you recieve both, why not put it together and register it as a kit car?
01 Cavalier - it still runs!
08 Evo X GSR - Stock.. for now
turboxr
Level 5
Level 5
Posts: 513
Joined: Tue Jun 15, 2004 4:07 pm
Location: Fayetteville, AR
Contact:

Post by turboxr »

That's been my thoughts for quite some time...
WesP
Level 3
Level 3
Posts: 242
Joined: Sun Jun 05, 2005 10:40 pm
Location: Exit 9 off the Turnpike

Post by WesP »

Bumpers, doors, windshield and window glass, side view mirrors, not sure what else.

If you are looking to bring one from Europe you can do it but first you need to find someone overseas willing ($$) to to disassemble the car, pay the shipping cost for the car and drivetrain, then when it gets here pay a registered importer to bring the bumpers, doors, etc up to FMVSS (they wont allow you to do it yourself), which cost as much as $10K.
1995 Escort RS Cosworth Lux
User avatar
merkurdriver
Level 8
Posts: 6199
Joined: Tue Jan 21, 2003 4:29 pm
Location: Northeast Ohio
Contact:

Post by merkurdriver »

Sure, there is a lot of ways around a lot of things :wink:
Again, COST. The more you spend the easier it becomes.
Shipping the sans running gear $1,200 US
Shipping the drivetrain $300 US

So there's $1,500 just in shipping. And now you have to convince them its a self-assembled car, blah blah blah, then they will want the #'s off the engine block to see when/where it was manufactured and then decide how the EPA wants to handle it - or possible go smog exempt.
"Hello sir, my self-assembled car is powed by a 1971 2.0 Ford Pinto engine and does not require emissions testing due to the powerplant being "older" than 25 years..." :lol:

Oh, the red tape... :roll:

FWIW - it is 100% LEGAL to import an RS500 to the US - but it will be RHD of course and big $$

Oh, you can't trick customs by putting RS500 decals on a standard RS Cossie, either, they have the VIN sequence :cry:

Like I said there are ways to do it - just depends on how much you want to spend....
WesP
Level 3
Level 3
Posts: 242
Joined: Sun Jun 05, 2005 10:40 pm
Location: Exit 9 off the Turnpike

Post by WesP »

Well put. The only reason the RS500 is allowed is because of the low production number. I believe there is only one model year Escort that is allowed here (small turbo EEC IV model), 95/96 don't remember which.

I myself could not justify the cost.
1995 Escort RS Cosworth Lux
wilky
Level 6
Level 6
Posts: 807
Joined: Sat May 24, 2003 9:17 pm
Location: Sarnia, Ontario, Canada

Post by wilky »

Sounds like it would be cheaper for you guys to move to Canada! :lol:

Wilky
Seeking relationship with sexy lady Merkur owner (send pic of Merkur).
fastmaul
Level 7
Level 7
Posts: 3541
Joined: Wed Jan 15, 2003 2:06 am
Location: NJ@ Home NYC@ Work.
Contact:

Post by fastmaul »

bumper (both) Glass, xtra bracing(as in non existent)..some other stuff...
Erik AKA MerkurSport's Bill payer. www.Merkursport.com The virtual Garage. Bring your own nudie calendar. You can now find MerkurSport on Facebook! http://www.facebook.com/pages/MerkurSpo ... 5756984607
User avatar
whitelx
Level 7
Level 7
Posts: 1209
Joined: Mon Oct 06, 2003 3:01 pm
Location: Riverside, CA
Contact:

Post by whitelx »

is it possible to have a car imported to Canada and then brought into the US at a later date?

I think are RS Cosworth sierras in the states that were brought here fully assembled (as far as I know). I just want to know how they did it. :)
1986 XR4Ti - 294rwhp/315ft-lbs
1992 Mustang 5.0 notch - 434rwhp/445ft-lbs
http://www.youtube.com/user/whitelx
MerkXRTurbo
Level 7
Level 7
Posts: 4612
Joined: Mon May 17, 2004 11:08 pm
Location: Vancouver, WA
Contact:

Post by MerkXRTurbo »

Erik, how did you go about it?
3" mandrel bent exhaust, Ported/Polished head, 1.89/1.57 valves, Gutted uppper/Knife edge lower intake, T3/T4, LA3, Big VAM, Cold air intake, 40bob header, Gillis valve, Forge BOV, Mustang SVO T5, Conquest intercooler, 20psi.
XR4Timan
Level 5
Level 5
Posts: 558
Joined: Thu Jan 30, 2003 3:25 pm
Location: Dallas (was Leeds/London/Brooklyn NY)
Contact:

Post by XR4Timan »

WesP wrote:Well put. The only reason the RS500 is allowed is because of the low production number. I believe there is only one model year Escort that is allowed here (small turbo EEC IV model), 95/96 don't remember which.

I myself could not justify the cost.
The RS500 can be brought in, but without drivetrain, then reassembled here using a US-spec Sapphire 4x4 engine or late-model Escort Cosworth engine.

If you attempt to bring one in with a drivetrain, it won't be allowed.

Same with the Porsche 959. In that case, there are two importers who mod and certify the non-emissions compliant 959 engine for dozens of thousands of dollars. Luckly, there is such a thing as a US-spec Cosworth engine.
Image
1986 Sierra Cosworth
http://www.geocities.com/merouby
MerkXRTurbo
Level 7
Level 7
Posts: 4612
Joined: Mon May 17, 2004 11:08 pm
Location: Vancouver, WA
Contact:

Post by MerkXRTurbo »

I thought that the 959 was sold in the US!

I saw one on the street when I was a few miles north of the Bay Area. :shock:
3" mandrel bent exhaust, Ported/Polished head, 1.89/1.57 valves, Gutted uppper/Knife edge lower intake, T3/T4, LA3, Big VAM, Cold air intake, 40bob header, Gillis valve, Forge BOV, Mustang SVO T5, Conquest intercooler, 20psi.
fastmaul
Level 7
Level 7
Posts: 3541
Joined: Wed Jan 15, 2003 2:06 am
Location: NJ@ Home NYC@ Work.
Contact:

Post by fastmaul »

MerkXRTurbo wrote:Erik, how did you go about it?
It was a birthday gift from my mom. 8)
Erik AKA MerkurSport's Bill payer. www.Merkursport.com The virtual Garage. Bring your own nudie calendar. You can now find MerkurSport on Facebook! http://www.facebook.com/pages/MerkurSpo ... 5756984607
User avatar
DPDISXR4Ti
Site Admin
Posts: 14036
Joined: Wed Jan 08, 2003 11:40 pm
Location: New York

Post by DPDISXR4Ti »

fastmaul wrote:
MerkXRTurbo wrote:Erik, how did you go about it?
It was a birthday gift from my mom. 8)
Kinda reminds me of that Craftsman commerical, where the two NASCAR truck dudes are "telling" each other how they fixed their cars so quick after wrecking.... "Yep, it was this here pocket knife that made the difference." :twisted:
CanadianCossy
Posts: 4
Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2005 5:03 pm

Post by CanadianCossy »

The unasked question in this thread is do you want a 100% road legal car? If not.... the are many many grey market cars in the US. Getting a vehicle physically into the US is not hard the hard part.
User avatar
whitelx
Level 7
Level 7
Posts: 1209
Joined: Mon Oct 06, 2003 3:01 pm
Location: Riverside, CA
Contact:

Post by whitelx »

CanadianCossy wrote:The unasked question in this thread is do you want a 100% road legal car? If not.... the are many many grey market cars in the US. Getting a vehicle physically into the US is not hard the hard part.
yeah, but getting it past customs is the hard part.

How about a 99% road legal car? I can settle for that. ;)
1986 XR4Ti - 294rwhp/315ft-lbs
1992 Mustang 5.0 notch - 434rwhp/445ft-lbs
http://www.youtube.com/user/whitelx
Post Reply