Picture Page Updated - The Official Thread

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Post by anglin » Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:06 pm

All,

Welcome to October; the latest update is in.

Ryan Mattson worked with Ed's Tubes to supplement a cooling system upgrade with durable components. He sent me the pictures and I posted them to the MerkurTech.com Picture Page. It's a good sized update, with 20 pictures. Enjoy!

http://www.merkurtech.com/merkurtech/pi ... s/main.php

BTW, if anybody has yet to visit the MTPP, feel free to shoot me an email at anglin@mc2racing.com to tell me what I need to do to get your business over there!

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Post by Frag » Fri Oct 03, 2008 11:31 am

Hmmm.... I really need this for my car almost AS is.
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Post by John Brennan » Fri Oct 03, 2008 1:18 pm

It's very good to see someone making parts like this, as the XR's cooling system has always been a PITA to maintain. I don't know where your discussions have taken you, but I really like the offset coolant pipes that feed directly into the heater core, with the result elimination of the HCV.

Another thing I would like to see is a kit(s) that utilize the '89's driver's-side coolant jug, as I believe from personal experience that this is a much better place for it.

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Post by DPDISXR4Ti » Fri Oct 03, 2008 1:45 pm

John Brennan wrote:Another thing I would like to see is a kit(s) that utilize the '89's driver's-side coolant jug, as I believe from personal experience that this is a much better place for it.
In theory, I agree. However in the real world however, the driver-side tank is NLA, and since it was a one-year only deal, nobody is making after-market replacements. Similar situation with the '89-specific radiator and hoses - limited availability.

I'd suggest that if you really want to get the tank over the the driver side, a solution using some "non-native" parts might be the best answer. There's probably some combination of junkyard-sourced parts that would fit well.
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Post by CV12Steve » Fri Oct 03, 2008 1:46 pm

John Brennan wrote:Another thing I would like to see is a kit(s) that utilize the '89's driver's-side coolant jug, as I believe from personal experience that this is a much better place for it.
I don't know about that, John. Now that I got an '88 with '89 plumbing I'm thinking of changing to the passenger side tank to make room for a rotated upper (to that 944 intercooler :wink: ).
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Post by Frag » Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:51 pm

These are available across the pond. Image

I also think Rapdio stocks the 89 style coolant parts including the jug.

A Volvo jug would work as well.

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Post by michaelb » Fri Oct 03, 2008 3:42 pm

Are those lines going to be for sale?
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Post by John Brennan » Fri Oct 03, 2008 11:45 pm

CV12Steve wrote:
John Brennan wrote:Another thing I would like to see is a kit(s) that utilize the '89's driver's-side coolant jug, as I believe from personal experience that this is a much better place for it.
I don't know about that, John. Now that I got an '88 with '89 plumbing I'm thinking of changing to the passenger side tank to make room for a rotated upper (to that 944 intercooler :wink: ).
Let me know if you do-- as I said, having the jug away from the heat of the turbo kept it looking like new for years-- and there was a lot less sturm und drang. If/when I do a rotated intake, I think I prefer the 90*-- keeps everything as short as possible, but not too short, as in needing to shorten the throttle cable.
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Post by CV12Steve » Sat Oct 04, 2008 10:30 am

John Brennan wrote:
CV12Steve wrote:
John Brennan wrote:Another thing I would like to see is a kit(s) that utilize the '89's driver's-side coolant jug, as I believe from personal experience that this is a much better place for it.
I don't know about that, John. Now that I got an '88 with '89 plumbing I'm thinking of changing to the passenger side tank to make room for a rotated upper (to that 944 intercooler :wink: ).
Let me know if you do-- as I said, having the jug away from the heat of the turbo kept it looking like new for years-- and there was a lot less sturm und drang. If/when I do a rotated intake, I think I prefer the 90*-- keeps everything as short as possible, but not too short, as in needing to shorten the throttle cable.
A 90° intake requires alternator relocation, doesn’t it? I don’t want to lose the A/C, but I might consider going manual steering (but not the manual ratio).
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Post by John Brennan » Sat Oct 04, 2008 11:20 am

Actually, it does not. The best example I have seen is Hugh Lacey's (sixfoot7) car, which is on CarDomain. See Page 5, and you'll see a 90* intake done with all accessories in their stock locations. As he related it to me, he did this by lengthening the alternator adjustment slot downwards, and using shorter belts. Of course, if you eliminated the PS, you could put the alt in its place by using a Pinto bracket or the equivalent. But, apparently, you can "have it all":

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/150867/5

Edit: Note that he also uses an '89 jug. Heee's my heee-ro! :lol:
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Post by CV12Steve » Sat Oct 04, 2008 5:01 pm

OK John, that changes my plans a bit.
"Having it all" would include going serpentine, something I haven't seen without A/C elimination, but I haven't searched that hard. Do you know offhand if anyone's done it?
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Post by John Brennan » Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:03 am

Yes again (sorry, was OOT until tonight)!

40Bob sez if you "flip the alternator to the outside" of its normal position, you can use a 90* intake. I haven't actually seen this, but I think I understand how it works.

Anybody have pix of this?
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Post by deathbypsi » Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:19 am

I want those coolant lines!! Wow!
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Post by anglin » Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:23 pm

Wow. I didn't even notice this thread was getting action because of my limited availability lately. Of course, I will always make time to do the stuff that is really important to you Merkur owners... you know - Picture Page updates!

John Keefe sent me pictures of his front brake upgrade back in August and there has been such a queue I am just now getting them posted. His conversion involves Wilwood calipers and the rotors with the aluminum hats. Good entertainment!

http://www.merkurtech.com/merkurtech/pi ... s/main.php

BTW... and this is a big BTW, the Picture Page has been offering up pictures for more than a decade now. There aren't many Merkur-specific web pages out there that can make such a claim.

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Post by John Brennan » Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:26 pm

Chris: a thought occured to me (like James Bond, you know, hanging on..) when looking at the Ed's Tubes setup again (this group of pix is like porn to me, just so you know :lol: ):

If you utilize the (brilliant!) offset tubes to connect straight to the heater core and eliminate the HCV, how does coolant return to the system from the lower intake depicted (with shutoff valve)? You'd either have to re-route it around to the front (a line forward to the water pump, perhaps?), or eliminate the oil regulator/wet lower intake, relocate sensors, et al... right?
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