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WTB: Carbd turbo setup

Post by Choochoochoo » Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:28 am

I know it’s a bit of a reach, but does anyone have a carbd turbo setup they’d be willing to part with? Looking into lightly boosting the 144 in my falcon and that looks like the easiest way to go about it...
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Re: Carbd turbo setup

Post by milehighXR » Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:59 am

That's an inline 6 right? If so, as I recall the only Ford inline sixes that are worth building are the 250(passenger car) or the truck sixes, as they have 7 main bearings. The 144 only has 4 mains, and is not gonna survive for long with any kind of power mods. Even then the truck inline 6 is betterer as the 250 has the intake manifold cast into the head. The 250 lived a production life in Australia, and even got a DOHC head with turbo in later years. I seem to recall someone importing a late Aussie head and fitting it to the US 250 I-6. Of course it's a ton of work, probably even more than putting the Volvo head onto the 2.3T.
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Re: Carbd turbo setup

Post by Choochoochoo » Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:39 pm

I don’t expect it to las too long either way. I’m currently starting to gather all of the necessary bits to do a 2.3 turbo swap, I just thought it’d be fun to add a few extra ponies to the turd before I swap it out.
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Re: Carbd turbo setup

Post by milehighXR » Sun Nov 12, 2017 12:01 pm

You'd be better of focusing on the prep for the 2.3T swap, and nursing the turd till yer ready to do the swap.
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Re: Carbd turbo setup

Post by reddy2300 » Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:08 pm

Dump a 75hp nitrous shot on it until you get the parts for the turbo 2.3

Then, dump the nitrous on the turbo 2.3 when you get it in.
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Re: Carbd turbo setup

Post by thesameguy » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:24 pm

milehighXR wrote:
Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:59 am
That's an inline 6 right? If so, as I recall the only Ford inline sixes that are worth building are the 250(passenger car) or the truck sixes, as they have 7 main bearings. The 144 only has 4 mains, and is not gonna survive for long with any kind of power mods. Even then the truck inline 6 is betterer as the 250 has the intake manifold cast into the head. The 250 lived a production life in Australia, and even got a DOHC head with turbo in later years. I seem to recall someone importing a late Aussie head and fitting it to the US 250 I-6. Of course it's a ton of work, probably even more than putting the Volvo head onto the 2.3T.
The 200ci small six got seven mains in '64, FWIW.

There are "lots" of Australian crossflow heads in the US, and Classic Inlines had a trick aluminum crossflow head as well - though the owner died and I'm not sure what happened after that. If OP has a 144, I'm guessing he has an early Falcon, in which case the 250 doesn't fit without substantial adjustments and the 300ci big six *definitely* doesn't fit. Going to the 200ci is a bolt in swap (did that myself) and the best/easy/cheap option for more power. Going to a 2.3t with a C4 is pretty easy, though I can't imagine carbing that. Not when EFI via EEC or PIMP is so. much. better.

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Re: Carbd turbo setup

Post by reddy2300 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:18 am

Heck, just turbo the inline six!!!! (After putting some forged pistons in it.)

Would be a KILLER combo.
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Re: WTB: Carbd turbo setup

Post by thesameguy » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:11 pm

Turbocharging the six is definitely doable - I can't remember the formula, but something about a later small six exhaust manifold and a j pipe with a t3 flange or something. It's been done many times. You really can't get any power out of the thing due to the integrated intake manifold and its tiny inlet. Modifying the manifold to open that up is possible, but you know... welding to cast iron sucks and you still have terrible flow and terrible combustion chamber design. If you wanna keep it reliable, you end up with a 150 or 170hp inline six when you could save 150lbs and get the same thing (and much more) out of a 2.3t. All that changes with a head swap, but of course you can buy a few 2.3t motors for the price of one crossflow inline six head. The economies suck! ;)

I've got a '62 and I've been very happy with the performance out of the 200 six. It's 100 honest hp in a 2500lb car... it's not fast, but it's plenty fine on the road and tbh, going much faster in that tin can scares me. I'm taking the opposite approach, aiming at a 150hp Duratec that'll shed another 300lbs. That way, when I wreck it, it'll be an all-aluminum motor crushing my legs instead of a cast iron Lima. :headbang

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