Scorpio Change Delineation Thread

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Post by milehighXR » Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:17 pm

grondie wrote:
What was the "Rear floor heat" changed to in 89?

Do you know the date on the bracket change for the rear seat backs?

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Post by Rooster » Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:20 pm

milehighXR wrote:
grondie wrote:
What was the "Rear floor heat" changed to in 89?

Do you know the date on the bracket change for the rear seat backs?

Thanks!
Bob
Cigar lighter only, no other controls...
picture of the difference??
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Post by scorpioaddict » Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:02 pm

Picture of the rear heat control on a 6/87 car:

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Picture of late vs early seat colors. The driver seat back is from an 89 car. This one surprised me. I've driven the car for three years, and didn't see this until digging through some old snaps.

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Post by scorpioaddict » Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:54 pm

89 console/no adjustable rear heat:

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Post by Rooster » Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:51 am

Can you mount the adjustable heat in a non adjustable car?
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Post by scorpioaddict » Sun Aug 23, 2009 1:12 pm

Probably. I'm guessing it would require pulling the floor ducts, cables, and control from an older car. But I'm also guessing they deleted it on the newer cars because it didn't make much of a difference.

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Re: Scorpio Change Delineation Thread

Post by Jake Delgado » Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:34 pm

The '89 had a headlight switch position to the left of the normal "off" position that turned on the parking lights without the instrument cluster. I think the '89 was the only model year in the US that offered the manual transmission. The '89 had a different temperature sender in the radiator that went with the change to the single speed front fan. The rear seat-back motors had a larger pin diameter where it engaged the seat backs along with a different latch in the seat backs for the larger pin.
grondie wrote:Hi Everyone,

As we did with the XR4Ti in the other forum, we're going to attempt to make a complete list of changes that were made to the Scorpio during its production run. Since I haven't owned a Scorpio for more than a week, I'm going to need a lot of help with this one. So, if anything needs to be updated or changed, please just reply in this thread - I will then update the master list as time permits.

The point of this is to create resources for the new webpage.

1987 (88 MY cars build prior to 8/24/87)
Was there any unique colors to the 87's (Ivory)?

Two speed condenser A/C cooling fan; Bosch
A/C lines all rubber
Rear floor heat with adjustable flow


1988
Colors Offered:
Black (0A) with raven cloth interior
Diamond White (0B) with raven cloth interior
Burgundy Red (0E) with raven cloth interior
Ivory (??) with taupe cloth interior
Sand Gold Metallic Clearcoat (0S) with taupe cloth interior
Chesnut Metallic Clearcoat (??) with taupe cloth interior
Cyrstal Blue Metallic Clearcoat (??) with raven cloth interior
Raven Metallic Clearcoat (??) with raven cloth interior
Blue-Gray Metallic Clearcoat (??) with raven interior
Strato Silver Metallic Clearcoat (0V) with raven cloth interior
Regency Red Metallic Clearcoat (??) with raven cloth interior

Optional leather available in raven or taupe depending on color
Lower cladding available in gray or taupe depending on color (?)

Standard Prop hood
Key style changed from chubb to tibbie
Revised door lock actuators to 88 (Late)
CEL/MIL added
Temp Controller added "Off" switch (Late)
Non-adjustable rear seat heater ducts

1989
Colors Offered:
Black (0A) with raven cloth interior
Diamond White (0B) with spice brown cloth interior
Burgundy Red (0E) with raven cloth interior
Brabazon Metallic Clearcoat (A5) with spice brown cloth interior
Nautilus Gray Metallic Clearcoat (AT) with raven cloth interior
Strato Silver Metallic Clearcoat (0V) with raven cloth interior
Magenta Red Metallic Clearcoat (01) with raven cloth interior
Gitane Blue Metallic Clearcoat (0K) with raven cloth interior
Sand Gold Metallic Clearcoat (0S) (Early) with taupe cloth interior
Tuscany Gold Metallic Clearcoat (08 ) (Late) with spice brown cloth interior
Antique Bronze Metalllic Clearcoat (0G) with spice brown cloth interior

Optional leather available in raven or spice brown depending on color
Lower cladding available in gray or taupe depending on color

Hydraulic hood supports
Coolant bottle changed to more oval shape
Single speed condenser A/C cooling fan; Canadian sourced, quieter
Added Big A/C evaporator line a 90° metal bend; small line is all metal
Radiator hoses changed
Washer bottle hidden under front fender
Revised headlight switch

unknown:
Rear seats Different brackets for the rear seat backs
Wipers redesigned to clear rear hood
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Re: Scorpio Change Delineation Thread

Post by milehighXR » Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:48 pm

Jake Delgado wrote:The '89 had a headlight switch position to the left of the normal "off" position that turned on the parking lights without the instrument cluster.
My black 89 has this, I was under the impression that it was euro only, and my dash lights still come on when in that position. I plan on taking it out, as it could lead to accidental battery testing...
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Post by Ed Lijewski » Wed Sep 16, 2009 10:56 am

I thought that switch turned on only/only the driver's side front adn rear parking lamps---a European thing related to the need to park on narrow streets close to buildings, with the front and rear driver's side lights alerting oncomers--but not wasting battery juice to illuminate the passenger side lamps as well.

BTW, you can't just install an '89 switch on an '88--the additional wiring needed for it functino as aboe isn't in the 88's wiring harness.

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Post by milehighXR » Wed Sep 16, 2009 11:21 am

I said my 89 has that switch, however it does function like you describe, leading me to believe it was Euto option of some kind, and our wiring doen't have it set up...
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Post by dimswits » Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:22 am

Ed Lijewski wrote:I thought that switch turned on only/only the driver's side front adn rear parking lamps---a European thing related to the need to park on narrow streets close to buildings, with the front and rear driver's side lights alerting oncomers--but not wasting battery juice to illuminate the passenger side lamps as well.
Either side, selected with the turn signal stalk.
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Post by milehighXR » Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:49 am

I checked my 89 again, and the 3rd position turns on all the park lights, but no dash lights :oops: I do see comparing both switches side by side, that the switch has one extra pin(numbered 57 I think). I did not look at the 88 wires to see if it had a wire there or not.
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Post by Ed Lijewski » Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:12 pm

Save the effort: I got a switch for an '89, but found no additional wire on my '88 to connect to that extra pin.

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Post by MerkurRS » Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:08 pm

blugg wrote:I have a March 13, 87 build (earliest)

and a June 23, 89 build (latest)


I dont know the start of North American production and I dont know the cut off either.
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Post by MerkurRS » Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:21 pm

Here are some differences missed:

First of all, the coveted leaf catcher was a late 89 item.

Early 87 (and some 88?) cars had chromed interior door handle pulls.

My book also says front and rear floor mats were added as a 1988 running change.

It also says heated seats were new for 89.

I think someone mentioned manually adjusted seats in early units?
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