I have the Scorpio shop manual for the '88 but not for the '89. The '88 I have is an automatic and the '89 is a manual and each has a different computer. The key difference I see visually between the two is that the '88 has an EGR system with 1 O2 sensor and the '89 does not have an EGR system with 2 O2 sensors.
I may need to plug the '89 EEC into the '88.
The '88 HEGO signal is pin 29.
Does anybody have the HEGO pin outs for the HEGO for the '89?
(I'm not concerned if the 2nd is in another pin location and it's not used on the '88.)
I searched the forums and the closest I came to is "this" post:
viewtopic.php?f=29&t=10310&hilit=t9+computer
But there's nothing definitive in there other than "go ahead and plug it in".
Here is the pin out for the '88.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/m1titnoezj4tm ... s.pdf?dl=0
EEC auto, manual differences "?"
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EEC auto, manual differences "?"
1987 XR4Ti with about 62,000 miles, Azure Blue.
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Re: EEC auto, manual differences "?"
The difference is mostly with the '89 5-speed cars which, as you have noted, have an O2 sensor in each exhaust manifold. The A4LD cars all have one O2 sensor centrally located downstream after the "Y".
The PCM's for the Automatic cars should all be swap-able year-to-year as the pin-out is the same. I've read reports that the early ones (from the 1987 cars), are a little sluggish and improvements were seen upgrading to '88/9 computers.
FWIW, on my T-9 converted Scorpio I'm running an A4LD computer since I'm still running the single O2 sensor. It works fine.
The PCM's for the Automatic cars should all be swap-able year-to-year as the pin-out is the same. I've read reports that the early ones (from the 1987 cars), are a little sluggish and improvements were seen upgrading to '88/9 computers.
FWIW, on my T-9 converted Scorpio I'm running an A4LD computer since I'm still running the single O2 sensor. It works fine.
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Re: EEC auto, manual differences "?"
always seemed odd to have 2 O2 sensors on a manual an 1 on a auto.....an those autos that been converted to manuals the single o2 has been fine.
in other news the same 2,9 overseas used dual VAMs on the intake just after the air box......but NA models, none of that extra fluff
in other news the same 2,9 overseas used dual VAMs on the intake just after the air box......but NA models, none of that extra fluff
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Re: EEC auto, manual differences "?"
Don't the manual trans cars also have an air pump?
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Re: EEC auto, manual differences "?"
No. My parts car is a factory original T-9 and no air pump.
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Re: EEC auto, manual differences "?"
I've been out of commission over the past week or so. With that... Thanks for the feedback. I gave the manual EEC a try -- low hanging fruit. No (positive) affect on the running state of the '88.
1987 XR4Ti with about 62,000 miles, Azure Blue.
T-5, Mustang front brakes, T-bird rear disks
mc2racing: full/new suspension and all bushings.
stock turbo, T-bird VAM and LA2, ~ 15-17 lbs boost, Rapido intercooler
40-Bob log header, full 3" exhaust
T-5, Mustang front brakes, T-bird rear disks
mc2racing: full/new suspension and all bushings.
stock turbo, T-bird VAM and LA2, ~ 15-17 lbs boost, Rapido intercooler
40-Bob log header, full 3" exhaust