I saw this and thought it might be a good substitute for Scorpio overflow and washer tank float sensors.
One would only have to work out the rubber seal portion, possibly 3d print something in polyurethane. Or it may be making a simple spacer.
https://www.allelectronics.com/item/flw ... tor/1.html
In the printed catalog they indicate the part is made of polypropylene, which would work fine in the applications.
It comes with the reed switch like the Scorpio, but also has an extra thermistor if you wanted to measure temp in the overflow tank.
Possible float switch substitute
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Re: Possible float switch substitute
My windshield washer float is not working. Probably the float portion has come loose. In the past I have re-attached but I'm tired of this issue so I bought a pair of the aforementioned float sensors from All Electronics.
Seems like a better part than the original. Tough Nylon and Polypropylene plastics. Just need to work out the rubber seal portion. The thermistor measured 11.k at 71F ambient, although I don't need to know the temp of the washer fluid, so I will probably just cut those leads off. I suspect the thermistor drops in resistance as the temperature goes up.
I'll see what it takes to adapt the seal and if I end up 3d printing polyurethane I will post the model on thingiverse.com
Seems like a better part than the original. Tough Nylon and Polypropylene plastics. Just need to work out the rubber seal portion. The thermistor measured 11.k at 71F ambient, although I don't need to know the temp of the washer fluid, so I will probably just cut those leads off. I suspect the thermistor drops in resistance as the temperature goes up.
I'll see what it takes to adapt the seal and if I end up 3d printing polyurethane I will post the model on thingiverse.com
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Re: Possible float switch substitute
Well, it turns out no adapter is required but only some turning on the lathe. I basically cut the threaded area on the new sensor down to 0.68" like the original sensor. The overall length of the new sensor is longer but it causes no interference problems inside the tank and the float will work fine. As you can see in the picture It appears the float on my old sensor is "rotted". It does not "float" anymore. Perhaps another solution would be to 3d print a new float that would accept a small magnet.
I applied silicone grease to the outer side of the grommet so it would pop back into the tank easily. I used a smear of silicone sealant around the turned portion of the sensor to avoid any leak, but that may have not been necessary since it is a tight fit.
Cut, swap, solder and shrink wrap on the old connector.
I applied silicone grease to the outer side of the grommet so it would pop back into the tank easily. I used a smear of silicone sealant around the turned portion of the sensor to avoid any leak, but that may have not been necessary since it is a tight fit.
Cut, swap, solder and shrink wrap on the old connector.
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Re: Possible float switch substitute
The area under the tank was a mess. Need to take some time to detail my engine compartment in the Spring.
One of the mounting screws to the fender wall is difficult to reach near the overflow tank. I notched the tab on the tank so I could pre-set the screw and then snap the tank over the screw. This will make removal for cleaning in the future easier. I then tightened it with needle nose pliers. Naturally the connector contacts got an application of Koprshield. I painted the exposed side of the sensor with some fast dry flat black paint to keep a stock look to it. Total project time was about 1.25 hours.
Strange thing though, after I started the car. The washer fluid light flashed for about 25 seconds and then went out. Is that normal? I guessing the lamp module was "re-adjusting" since the washer light has been on for a few months.
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One of the mounting screws to the fender wall is difficult to reach near the overflow tank. I notched the tab on the tank so I could pre-set the screw and then snap the tank over the screw. This will make removal for cleaning in the future easier. I then tightened it with needle nose pliers. Naturally the connector contacts got an application of Koprshield. I painted the exposed side of the sensor with some fast dry flat black paint to keep a stock look to it. Total project time was about 1.25 hours.
Strange thing though, after I started the car. The washer fluid light flashed for about 25 seconds and then went out. Is that normal? I guessing the lamp module was "re-adjusting" since the washer light has been on for a few months.
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Re: Possible float switch substitute
Oops. Looks like I missed something. It appears there are two resistors that need to wired into the switch harness.
See below. On the old float switch I measured 1378 ohms with the switch open and 180 with the switch closed. Therefore the resistors required are as shown below.
This is why I am getting the flashing light at startup. The lamp module is complaining. Should have referred to the EVTM before I delved into this.
I'll fix it tomorrow.
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See below. On the old float switch I measured 1378 ohms with the switch open and 180 with the switch closed. Therefore the resistors required are as shown below.
This is why I am getting the flashing light at startup. The lamp module is complaining. Should have referred to the EVTM before I delved into this.
I'll fix it tomorrow.
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Re: Possible float switch substitute
All fixed... Dash light no longer blinking. Took me a little longer but if I had to do it all over again the whole project would only take me a about a half hour. I bought two of these float sensors. Saving the other for when the radiator overflow sensor goes bad. Not a "drop in replacement" but a pretty easy substitution that will probably outlast the stock float sensors.
Back to Scorpio bliss...
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Back to Scorpio bliss...
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Re: Possible float switch substitute
All Electronics is going out of business in August. So if you want one of these float sensors you better get them before they disappear.
They did drop the price to $1.75
https://www.allelectronics.com/item/flw ... tor/1.html
They did drop the price to $1.75
https://www.allelectronics.com/item/flw ... tor/1.html
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