XR4Ti Change Delineation Thread

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Post by DPDISXR4Ti » Sun Aug 02, 2009 8:50 pm

anglin wrote:Image
The fact that the pictures are so old is the only reason why I think that this might be a legitimate combination/unmolested example.
Interesting. Indeed it would be nice to know for sure if it left the factory this way, as it's an oddball combo. I'd guess it's a very early build '88 - note it's got the correct rear side window for an '88 as well.
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Post by merkurdriver » Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:04 pm

Wow, interesting cladding strip on that 88 there!

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Post by Rooster » Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:37 pm

merkurdriver wrote:
jasonty wrote: What about the "XR4Ti" stickers on the doors ala Kate Ertls cars?
1985 year only. (I've seen those door decals NOS, so they are a genuine Ford part)
picture of this decal??
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Post by anglin » Mon Aug 03, 2009 12:56 am

DPDISXR4Ti wrote:Interesting. Indeed it would be nice to know for sure if it left the factory this way, as it's an oddball combo. I'd guess it's a very early build '88 - note it's got the correct rear side window for an '88 as well.
Exactly. The side window trim isn't easy to replace. The hatch is a bear but probably easier than the side window trim. The easiest way to fake this combo would be to replace the bumper. But all the cladding would have to be done, too.

I've got an 87 with the early side window trim (without the fairing visible on the car above). It has the bi-plane spoiler and the "MERKUR" script on the right side of the hatch. Here's a picture:

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These two cars would suggest that the order of change went like:

#1 - Merkur badge to "MERKUR" script
#2 - bi-plane spoiler to mono-plane spoiler and side window fairings (at the same time?)
#3 - maple to silver cladding insert

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Post by anglin » Mon Aug 03, 2009 12:58 am

Rooster wrote:
merkurdriver wrote:1985 year only. (I've seen those door decals NOS, so they are a genuine Ford part)
picture of this decal??
Pretty sure this is one of the Ertl's cars from a scan of a picture I took (probably) at Carlisle 1998.

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Post by Rooster » Mon Aug 03, 2009 1:52 am

that looks cool on the door like that....
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Post by DPDISXR4Ti » Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:00 am

anglin wrote:I've got an 87 with the early side window trim (without the fairing visible on the car above). It has the bi-plane spoiler and the "MERKUR" script on the right side of the hatch. Here's a picture:

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The Brat car also had this combo. Let me guess, 7/87 build? I've come across a bunch of these over the years. My guess is that they (obviously) knew the changes were coming in the hatch and rear windows for M.Y. 1988 production starting in late August, and so they blew out a bunch of cars in July to get rid of all the bi-wing hatches. But they were already out of small Merkur badges, so they just switched over to the Merkur script.

anglin wrote: These two cars would suggest that the order of change went like:

#1 - Merkur badge to "MERKUR" script
#2 - bi-plane spoiler to mono-plane spoiler and side window fairings (at the same time?)
#3 - maple to silver cladding insert
Agreed.
#1 starting in 6/87 or possibly 7/87
#2 Yes, and consistent with the '88 M.Y. change-over
#3 Aside from your fluke example above, I'm thinking this too was generally a '88 M.Y. change. Need moar data.
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Post by grondie » Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:34 pm

These two cars would suggest that the order of change went like:

#1 - Merkur badge to "MERKUR" script


Agreed.
#1 starting in 6/87 or possibly 7/87
I can confirm a 6/87 car with the MERKUR script, Mono-black. I actually thought the change was earlier. Anyone with a < 6/87 build with a "MERKUR" script badge on the hatch? :)
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Post by Rooster » Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:49 pm

So what was the 1st month.. for the build date that they were brought?
what was the Last??
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Post by merkurdriver » Fri Aug 07, 2009 7:17 pm

Rooster wrote:So what was the 1st month.. for the build date that they were brought?
what was the Last??
Last XRs are 12/88 builds.

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Post by whitelx » Sat Aug 08, 2009 12:04 am

Lets add spout connector change to the 1986 list.


This is the early style, which 85s and early 86 build cars have

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My car is a 3/86 and has the style above. Another poster has a 6/86 with the later style which incorporates a square jumper 'pill'. Anyone have a build date between 3/86 and 6/86? If so, why style pout connector do you have?
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Post by Rooster » Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:37 am

I will check mine it is 6-86 :)
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Post by Teedyo » Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:59 am

5/86 and has the SPOUT pull tab.
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Post by DPDISXR4Ti » Tue Sep 08, 2009 4:38 pm

anglin wrote:Cladding Inserts:
1988, Silver:
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Saw an early '88 (10/87 build) that looked just like this one the other day, except it had the "spatula" wheels as found on the cars through about 6/88. All the usual '88 stuff - mono wing and "winglets" on the 3rd window.
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Post by anglin » Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:36 am

DPDISXR4Ti wrote:Saw an early '88 (10/87 build) that looked just like this one the other day, except it had the "spatula" wheels as found on the cars through about 6/88.
Doh! Sorry. This car had spatulas originally. I just had the basketweave wheels on there because they were junk compared to the wheels that had been on the car.

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