Rough Shift in Reverse

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Rough Shift in Reverse

Post by nighthawk1 » Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:45 pm

Hello! My manual xr4ti has a rough shift when going in reverse. 1 out of every 3 times it is a rough grind / clunk sound only when going in reverse.

Any thoughts?

Joints seem to be fine

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Re: Rough Shift in Reverse

Post by nighthawk1 » Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:59 pm

In the manual i read how to adjust the clutch, and i cant seem to get the clutch to click when depressing it ??

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Re: Rough Shift in Reverse

Post by DAReese » Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:15 pm

My understanding is the T5 and doesn't have a synchronizer for reverse, so a little grinding is normal.
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Re: Rough Shift in Reverse

Post by nighthawk1 » Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:17 pm

stock - in the manual it says push up on clutch pedal , then push back down to adjust - but i never heard a click...

i have an 85'

Shifts good otherwise, just a grind/clunk loud when putting it in reverse 1/3 times on average

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Re: Rough Shift in Reverse

Post by DAReese » Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:18 pm

nighthawk1 wrote:In the manual i read how to adjust the clutch, and i cant seem to get the clutch to click when depressing it ??
What clutch quadrant do you have? I think David Godfrey's is a manual adjustment. For the stock one, I think if it is properly adjusted, it won't click.
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Re: Rough Shift in Reverse

Post by nighthawk1 » Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:30 pm

its stock. Theres just a grinding noise when shifting into reverse 1/3 times on average...

Not quite sure if the clutch needs adjusting ?

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Re: Rough Shift in Reverse

Post by hEaT » Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:18 am

If the adjustment is out, it will click when you pull up on the pedal.

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Re: Rough Shift in Reverse

Post by John Brennan » Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:00 am

How old is the clutch? It may have no more adjustment to give.
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Re: Rough Shift in Reverse

Post by aviatorpa23 » Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:17 am

Before shifting into reverse, directly from neutral, shift into 1st or .... and then into reverse. That stops the little gears from spinning and making that awful expensive noise. The real fix is new clutch, throwout bearing, new cable and clutch quadrant. However engaging a forward gear first should save on the grinding and potential trans damage. I know, I have the same problem, if I go directly to reverse from neutral.
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Re: Rough Shift in Reverse

Post by tvissoc » Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:47 am

One other possibility is that the pilot bearing is worn and grabbing the input shaft causing it to spin a bit even when the clutch is in. Also, a failing clutch release bearing can do this.

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Re: Rough Shift in Reverse

Post by adamt85 » Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:54 pm

Mine has done this(T5) I shift into 4th then reverse. never a grind! straight from 1st or neutral I get a nasty grind.
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Re: Rough Shift in Reverse

Post by RichBaker » Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:45 pm

aviatorpa23 wrote:Before shifting into reverse, directly from neutral, shift into 1st or .... and then into reverse. That stops the little gears from spinning and making that awful expensive noise. However engaging a forward gear first should save on the grinding and potential trans damage. I know, I have the same problem, if I go directly to reverse from neutral.

This is the correct answer.... It is normal for ANY manual trans. No synchros for reverse, so you need to put it into any forward gear, I usually use 1st. I learned to drive in 1974, on a 4-spd Toyota Corolla.
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