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Boredom has set in.......

Post by Choochoochoo » Sun Aug 28, 2016 3:42 pm

So I have found myself imagining what the xr would look like if you ditched the hatch, and made it into more of a notch back design.... Could be kinda cool, very expensive to do, but also very unique. What are your thoughts? I figured if you ditched the second set of rear windows, and use the c pillar as a reference point to mount up the rear windows and then work in a trunk...
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Post by dunhamr1 » Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:47 pm

Would that be grafting a Mustang notch-back onto the Merkur, or all custom? Could be interesting.
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Post by John Brennan » Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:19 am

I think you would succeed in making it look more like the 70's cars which came before it (or even lots of contemporary square-riggers), and that you would deface one of the best examples of space utilization ever designed-- and still unmatched by most of today's cars. The Sierra and its derivatives never cease to amaze me in terms of their utility, aesthetics, the efficacy of their aerodynamics, and the fact that it puts to shame so many excuses by designers who cry about their inability to create substantive interior room and component packaging with RWD without going big on the outside. But, to each his own.
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Post by reddy2300 » Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:27 am

Look up a Sierra Sapphire. That's a Sierra (Merkur) with a notchback.
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Post by John Brennan » Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:39 am

reddy2300 wrote:Look up a Sierra Sapphire. That's a Sierra (Merkur) with a notchback.
Which, to me, is inferior aesthetically to the three-door... but that's a matter of personal preference. But it was done, and done properly, by the factory. If someone wants the Sapph body style, may I humbly suggest buying one?
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Post by Spaldino » Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:56 am

Choochoochoo wrote:So I have found myself imagining what the xr would look like if you ditched the hatch, and made it into more of a notch back design.... Could be kinda cool, very expensive to do, but also very unique. What are your thoughts? I figured if you ditched the second set of rear windows, and use the c pillar as a reference point to mount up the rear windows and then work in a trunk...

something like this? Image
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Post by John Brennan » Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:10 am

Please note that the Sapph is also a four-door, which makes a big difference.

When Brad Anesi here created his "XRBratti" car, he grafted a pickup bed onto his XR4, basically imitating the body style of the Subaru Brat, by removing most of the upper body from the B-Pillar back and putting a box in its place. I would absolutely ask him about what he went through to achieve that, but he ended up creating a car with something useful, to whit, a pickup bed, Ranchero/El Camino/Brat/Aussie "Ute" style, so his car could do something it could not do before.

http://forum.merkurclub.com/forum/viewt ... =37&t=2639

A Mustang Notch can be had with the body style you're thinking of-- you can put a Lima into it, even an IRS from a contemporary Cobra.

If you're into major bodywork mods and this is your thing, and you want to do it just because, why then by all means knock yourself out. History, the Internet, and the dregs of craigslist are littered with many examples of Frankenstein's Monsters. I'd be delighted if you were to prove me wrong.
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Post by mhamilton » Mon Aug 29, 2016 4:44 pm

...and Brad is now out looking for a Fox body notchback.
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Post by John Brennan » Mon Aug 29, 2016 4:46 pm

mhamilton wrote:...and Brad is now out look for a Fox body notchback.
As in, "BRAD! LOOK OUT! HE'S COMIN' RIGHT FOR 'YA!!!" :esurprise
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Post by Ghost » Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:51 am

Oh crap.... Here comes Brad with the sawzall and a Pontiac grill!!!
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Post by Choochoochoo » Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:08 am

It was more of just a wonderment. I won't ever have the time, skills, or money to do it. I'm not so concerned about space, it was just kind of a mix between a notch back and a xr. Then you add a wide body to it and it could be interesting...
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Post by Choochoochoo » Thu Sep 01, 2016 9:12 am

Well now I know! Gotta admit, I kinda dig the notchback..
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Post by cmouta » Thu Sep 01, 2016 3:13 pm

woah woah more details about that four eye headlight/grill setup please!!(I'm sure there's tons of info on this one off black and white photo :roll: )
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Post by John Brennan » Thu Sep 01, 2016 3:50 pm

Choochoochoo wrote:Well now I know! Gotta admit, I kinda dig the notchback..
Not nearly as bad as I imagined it-- but whoever did this was very good. I wonder what backlight was used, and to what extent clips from which other cars were used?
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