Basic Auto Trans ?'s

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Basic Auto Trans ?'s

Post by Sburke » Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:04 am

I might have officially lost my mind. Considering picking up another XR4TI.

To be honest, I don't even really like these buckets. Friends randomly send me links, and I cannot resist.

Came across a decent looking clean stock automatic xr4ti. I have zero intentions on ever modding this, but just using it as an oddball daily driver when I don't feel like driving my boring diesel Passat.

How do the automatics hold up in stock form, with no engine mods? I don't plan on racing this thing, just daily driving and the occasional WOT pull, to remind myself how gutless the 2.3 is.

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Post by Ed Lijewski » Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:22 pm

If it doesn't have issues now it shouldn't raise any for you as a DD. I have two auto XRS and have driven one daily for over 10 years.
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Post by john keefe » Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:19 pm

The auto's in the XR's were pretty bulletproof, so long as you're not cranking up the HP significantly. I've had a couple, and except for a front seal leak, never had a problem. It wasn't until they turned it into a complicated OD mousetrap of the A4LD that they started having issues. If you're hoping for fuel economy and some punch, though, those weren't really these units' forte in the XR.

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Post by Ed Lijewski » Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:27 pm

The XR C3 came with a trans fluid cooler; the Scorpio a4ld did not >> weak link.

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Post by DPDISXR4Ti » Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:53 pm

The most annoying thing about the C3 is that it's a 3-speed automatic. It's fine for "around town" driving, but on the highway you're revving at over 3000 RPM just doing the speed limit.

I'd only own one if it had a A4LD swapped in.
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Post by John Brennan » Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:56 pm

DPDISXR4Ti wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:53 pm
The most annoying thing about the C3 is that it's a 3-speed automatic. It's fine for "around town" driving, but on the highway you're revving at over 3000 RPM just doing the speed limit.

I'd only own one if it had a A4LD swapped in.
True. Interstate limits here are 75 mph-- traffic flows, er, somewhat above that. You're pushing 4,000 rpm.
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Post by Sburke » Wed Nov 08, 2017 2:50 pm

Thanks guy!

Looks like it sold :(

No break from the boring daily tdi passat.

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Post by Ed Lijewski » Wed Nov 08, 2017 5:38 pm

The beauty of the C3 on highways at 3000÷ rpm or more is that you can get into big boost easily with just a further push of the accelerator pedal, no shifting gear needed.

No way an XR with an a4ld would be as responsive or as much fun on the highway.

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Post by merkurdriver » Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:08 pm

Ed Lijewski wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2017 5:38 pm
The beauty of the C3 on highways at 3000÷ rpm or more is that you can get into big boost easily with just a further push of the accelerator pedal, no shifting gear needed.

No way an XR with an a4ld would be as responsive or as much fun on the highway.

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Just leave and a4ld swapped XR in "3" and its identical to the C3. When its time to flat cruise and kick back, put it "D" and engage the overdrive.

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Post by thesameguy » Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:21 am

My '86 was a C3, with 263k on it when I got it. It needed a band adjustment, but was otherwise just fine. I only yanked it because, well, I don't like automatics. The two sides of the C3 are definitely high freeway revs and very responsive freeway revs. :)

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Post by Ed Lijewski » Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:08 am

Yeah...

How many 2 3 turbo C3s were sent to China before their time because of too many sustained high-speed turnpike miles on them...

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Post by eaton53 » Sat Nov 18, 2017 2:12 pm

IMO, the main issue with these transmissions is the hunting between 2nd and 3rd at certain speeds. Even a slight grade will cause it.

Auto XRs like to go 70+, albeit with some rpms. But that also means the car is on boost so you can pass easily.
They HATE going 55 on cruise control, so they would've sucked real bad when the speed limit was 55.
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