Teves brake system problems

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Re: Teves brake system problems

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I didn't say "categorically" or "universally" anything about stopping distances...

In my case above, summer day, asphalt in good condition, my tires with good tread depth, braking inertia direction straight ahead, distance could be decreased.

I can't prove anything about that experience. But I was comforted knowing the system activated.

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andyofcolumbusmerkur wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 7:49 pm Nope doesn't decrease the stopping distance.
Sure it does, Jackie Stuart said so:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omaiE1M8nzY
scroll to 7:10 in the video.

Although I admit he really has to work a bit to get the Scottish cops to agree with him.
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Speaking of Teves...

I got a really good book for Xmas. I highly recommend this book.
https://www.amazon.com/Secret-Horsepowe ... 1911658506

I had been watching Calum's videos on youtube and I mentioned them to my brother and he bought me the book.

Anyhow - Calum is a former engineer for Mercedes F1 engine development. He spent several years exploring the UK, German and US WWII archives in researching this book. It is the most comprehensive exploration into this subject.

We all knew that things like turbocharging and nitrous injection were a consequence of WWII developments.

But there was so much more that we think were more recent developments but, in fact, were also developed during the war.
I'll toss out a few examples. Alumina Ceramic spark plug insulators, iridium/platinum spark plug electrodes, direct cylinder fuel injection.
Vandervall shell crankshaft/con rod bearings, high octane fuel and proper ways to measure octane.

Basically everything that goes into my modern 2.3L ecoboost Ford Ranger engine was developed during WWII. The only real progress since that time has been with computerized engine controls. In fact, the Germans were adept at building mechanical computers to manage the engine parameters like boost, fuel mixture etc.. US and UK were way behind and our pilots were constantly distracted with fiddling the engine controls to keep from blowing up the motors.

But what about Teves? Well, they developed the sodium filled valve. This was one of several ways the Germans had to work around having little access to critical strategic metals (like Nickle and Cobalt).

This lack of access to strategic materials is what really lead to the Germans loosing out in the air war. Thier engineering was top notch in all other aspects. Thier engines were running well under thier potential because of the material issue.
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Re: Teves brake system problems

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brokencase wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 4:31 pm
andyofcolumbusmerkur wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 7:49 pm Nope doesn't decrease the stopping distance.
Sure it does, Jackie Stuart said so:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omaiE1M8nzY
scroll to 7:10 in the video.

Although I admit he really has to work a bit to get the Scottish cops to agree with him.
The number of separate photo scenes in that video made me dizzy. And impressed. Ford soared nothing to give it the real local color feel.

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