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Grayson
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 Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:09 pm Post subject: 2010 Carlisle Autocross |
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I'm going to throw down the gauntlet once again, this time 12 months in advance. If there is a 2010 Carlisle autocross, I'm going to win. Clang!
Ok, on to a more serious note. Brad - do you happen to have contact information for the person/people that green lighted the 2009 Carlisle autocross? I'd like to thank them and encourage them to host an autocross for 2010. Also, if the CVCC abides, I'd like to offer up the passenger seat to interested Merkur owners and provide some demonstration runs.
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DPDISXR4Ti
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| Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:41 pm Post subject: Re: 2010 Carlisle Autocross |
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| Grayson wrote: |
| Ok, on to a more serious note. Brad - do you happen to have contact information for the person/people that green lighted the 2009 Carlisle autocross? |
I'll drop you a note with the contacts Dr. Gauntlet.  There were some interesting politics that needed to get played after initially getting a couple "no, not this year" answers.
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Grayson
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| Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:02 am Post subject: |
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| I appreciate the hookup Brad. I BCC'd you on my propaganda. |
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Ed Lijewski
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| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 2:13 pm Post subject: Re: 2010 Carlisle Autocross |
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| Grayson wrote: |
| I'm going to throw down the gauntlet once again, this time 12 months in advance. If there is a 2010 Carlisle autocross, I'm going to win. Clang! |
Hmmm. Methinks we need a handicapping system for Carlisle 2010 AutoX. 
YMMV 
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anglin
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| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 3:42 pm Post subject: Re: 2010 Carlisle Autocross |
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| Ed Lijewski wrote: |
Hmmm. Methinks we need a handicapping system for Carlisle 2010 AutoX. |
In the past, we've had a classing system in place. However, smaller turnout makes it more difficult to have separate classes. I'm hoping that renewed interest in the autocross next year leads to the ability to put a classing structure back in place.
If there isn't enough turnout, then you've got 11 months to build a car that's faster than Grayson's. That's PLENTY of time considering the stuff is now available off-the-shelf which simply wasn't true before.
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ex_are_four_tea_eye
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| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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How many cars were in the auto-x this year?
I would've done it this year, but the need to drive my XR 400+ miles to get home made me change my mind. I wouldn't have been able to afford the towing bill if something would have broke...
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anglin
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| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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| ex_are_four_tea_eye wrote: |
| How many cars were in the auto-x this year? |
Looks like there were ten from the results I'm seeing.
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| I would've done it this year, but the need to drive my XR 400+ miles to get home made me change my mind. I wouldn't have been able to afford the towing bill if something would have broke... |
When you look over the history of Merkurs autocrossing at Carlisle, there haven't been any failures that prevented someone from driving their Merkur home. That's out of nearly 600 autocross runs done by Merkur owners at Carlisle autocross events.
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Grayson
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| Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:39 am Post subject: |
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There were 20 entrants, 10 of which were Merkurs. Note that Jim Gosses is a Merkur owner that was racing his Mustang.
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209 Chris Beyem 41.290 8X NASA AIX Ford Mustang Silver
310 Christopher Grayson 41.731 88 Merkur XR4Ti Blue
203 Rob Senft 45.199 04 Ford Mustang Cobra White
104 Matt McHenry 46.437 XX Ford Thunderbird Supercoupe Blue
410 Terry Watson 47.485 88 Merkur XR4Ti Blue
101 Brian Demnicki 48.116 99 Ford Mustang Cobra Red
107 Andrew West 49.027 89 Merkur XR4Ti Red
204 Samuel Daugherty 49.203 9X Ford Taurus SHO Green
302 Andrew West 49.895 89 Merkur XR4Ti Red
106 Rex Turner 49.904 72 Mustang Mach I Yellow
202 Jim Gosses 49.991 99 Ford Mustang GT Black
206 Nicolas Brizat 50.279 XX Ford Escort ZX2 White
301 Nick Saron 50.402 8X Merkur XR4Ti Black
103 George Schultz 51.238 85 Merkur XR4Ti Yellow
108 Jeff Labonte 51.635 86 Merkur XR4Ti Blue
201 Jonathan Saffian 51.672 88 Merkur XR4Ti Dark Green
205 Michael Stewart 52.027 XX Ford Focus Yellow
303 Erik Cotos 52.919 8X Merkur XR4Ti Blue
102 Robert Saffian 53.361 88 Merkur XR4Ti Dark Green
105 John Lattanzio 55.147 66 Ford Mustang Red |
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310 Christopher Grayson 41.731 88 Merkur XR4Ti Blue
410 Terry Watson 47.485 88 Merkur XR4Ti Blue
107 Andrew West 49.027 89 Merkur XR4Ti Red
302 Andrew West 49.895 89 Merkur XR4Ti Red
301 Nick Saron 50.402 8X Merkur XR4Ti Black
103 George Schultz 51.238 85 Merkur XR4Ti Yellow
108 Jeff Labonte 51.635 86 Merkur XR4Ti Blue
201 Jonathan Saffian 51.672 88 Merkur XR4Ti Dark Green
303 Erik Cotos 52.919 8X Merkur XR4Ti Blue
102 Robert Saffian 53.361 88 Merkur XR4Ti Dark Green
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As for autocross leading to car failures, I don't believe I've ever had an autocross-related failure. My cars have over 700 runs on them too. I had a failure recently at an autocross where my car overheated and blew a coolant hose, but that was because my 4-year-old was pushing switches in the car during the off-season and turned off my cooling fans. Had I not towed the car to the event my car wouldn't have even made it to the autocross in the first place.
Other than a cone mark I don't anticipate any Merkur owner ever having issues from the Carlisle autocross. If your car can't hack autocrossing don't ever take a cloverleaf at high speed or make any emergency lane change maneuvers to avoid someone cutting you off! |
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DPDISXR4Ti
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| Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:09 am Post subject: |
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Stating the same thing a little differently, if your car can't hack autoX, it probably shouldn't be on the road driving to Carlisle in the first place.
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ex_are_four_tea_eye
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| Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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Oh I'll definitely do it next year. I really haven't been driving the XR much before this trip, mainly just working on it, only owned it a year so far...
After going 955 miles for this years Carlisle I have more faith in the car... It didn't break down at all. And the few issues that came up are getting fixed now.
I really should have done it this year though, considering the previous owner used to autocross this car. |
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Ed Lijewski
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| Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Grayson wrote: |
| There were 20 entrants, 10 of which were Merkurs. Note that Jim Gosses is a Merkur owner that was racing his Mustang. |
Jim Gosses' son was driving his own car--the Mustang.
YMMV
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Ed Lijewski
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| Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Grayson wrote: |
As for autocross leading to car failures, I don't believe I've ever had an autocross-related failure. My cars have over 700 runs on them too. I had a failure recently at an autocross where my car overheated and blew a coolant hose, but that was because my 4-year-old was pushing switches in the car during the off-season and turned off my cooling fans. Had I not towed the car to the event my car wouldn't have even made it to the autocross in the first place.
Other than a cone mark I don't anticipate any Merkur owner ever having issues from the Carlisle autocross. If your car can't hack autocrossing don't ever take a cloverleaf at high speed or make any emergency lane change maneuvers to avoid someone cutting you off! |
Probably accurate, but those who watched Nick Sarin's 4th or 5th run when his XR let out a massive, steamboat sized belch of white smoke for a couple of seconds worried at least until the smoke dissipated that something could be amiss.
YMMV
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| Ed Lijewski wrote: |
| Probably accurate, but those who watched Nick Sarin's 4th or 5th run when his XR let out a massive, steamboat sized belch of white smoke for a couple of seconds worried at least until the smoke dissipated that something could be amiss. |
Nick's car arrived with that issue. The autoX just helped to demonstrate it a little better. 
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DSPXR4ti
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:33 pm Post subject: Re: 2010 Carlisle Autocross |
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| Grayson wrote: |
| I'm going to throw down the gauntlet once again, this time 12 months in advance. If there is a 2010 Carlisle autocross, I'm going to win. Clang! |
Ok I'll take that bet but I'll put this out there I can only do one, so... if I win the solo 2 national's will I be able to make the 2010 Carlisle, if I don't win then I'm going back to the National's in 2010.
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Grayson
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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| It sucks that my attendance at Nationals will prevent Ben from coming to Carlisle next year. |
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