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Re: Antifreeze tank

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andyofcolumbusmerkur wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 3:25 pm Put an aluminum expansion tank in the car. They work great and look cool.
Post Link to live source selling such tank on-hand for passenger side fitment or it doesn't exist.

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Vovan wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 5:25 pm
my8950 wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 3:03 pm
Vovan wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 11:23 am

He sets huge prices. 400 is very expensive in my opinion.
Wow, I need to increase my prices...$400 USD for the coolant bottle is insanity!
I wrote him the same thing as you, but he replied:
"Lol. I’m not going to engage in this conversation any longer or respond to your comment. Thank you for your business."
I feel like a fool, like I don't understand something
Seems like you hurt his ego. Maybe best to try other sources.
I don't think you are a fool at all, but I agree, I don't understand the pricing either.
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my8950 wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:38 am
Vovan wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 5:25 pm
my8950 wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 3:03 pm

Wow, I need to increase my prices...$400 USD for the coolant bottle is insanity!
I wrote him the same thing as you, but he replied:
"Lol. I’m not going to engage in this conversation any longer or respond to your comment. Thank you for your business."
I feel like a fool, like I don't understand something
Seems like you hurt his ego. Maybe best to try other sources.
I don't think you are a fool at all, but I agree, I don't understand the pricing either.
Thanks for your support. Yes, I will look for other sources.
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So basic: Demand and Supply (for '89 style coolant reservoirs in new/NEW! condition).

Vovan should set up a Go-Fund Me page to finance his expectation. It was his ego that felt pinched.

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Ed Lijewski wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 1:42 pm So basic: Demand and Supply (for '89 style coolant reservoirs in new/NEW! condition).
YMMV
No Ed, $400 is nuts. Supply is low, but demand is low also.

If Scorpios were valued as highly as Ferraris then a $400 coolant tank would not be beyond expectation.
But this is not the case.

Vovan, I think your best option is to get one in used condition out of Europe. Alternatively, adapt a tank out of some other vehicle.
The used tanks often get stained but can be cleaned up.

Keep in mind that there was a float sensor in the tank. Same as the one used for the washer fluid tank. The float on the sensor goes bad. I had previously found alternative float sensor that was easy to adapt but that source has closed down.
Discussed here https://forum.merkurclub.com/forum/view ... 11#p359411

It is possible to make a new float for the sensor - 3d printed or otherwise.
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Re: Antifreeze tank

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brokencase wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:06 pm
Ed Lijewski wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 1:42 pm So basic: Demand and Supply (for '89 style coolant reservoirs in new/NEW! condition).
YMMV
No Ed, $400 is nuts. Supply is low, but demand is low also.

If Scorpios were valued as highly as Ferraris then a $400 coolant tank would not be beyond expectation.
But this is not the case.

Vovan, I think your best option is to get one in used condition out of Europe. Alternatively, adapt a tank out of some other vehicle.
The used tanks often get stained but can be cleaned up.

Keep in mind that there was a float sensor in the tank. Same as the one used for the washer fluid tank. The float on the sensor goes bad. I had previously found alternative float sensor that was easy to adapt but that source has closed down.
Discussed here https://forum.merkurclub.com/forum/view ... 11#p359411

It is possible to make a new float for the sensor - 3d printed or otherwise.
Where I live, these parts are easy to buy and cheap. Also, my antifreeze tank is in working condition, I just wanted to find a new one because I'm restoring my car. I was counting on a price of about $150. I think $150 is already very expensive, but I really wanted this tank. But $400 doesn't make any sense, even I really want to buy it.
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brokencase wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:06 pm
Ed Lijewski wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 1:42 pm So basic: Demand and Supply (for '89 style coolant reservoirs in new/NEW! condition).
YMMV
No Ed, $400 is nuts. Supply is low, but demand is low also.

If Scorpios were valued as highly as Ferraris then a $400 coolant tank would not be beyond expectation.
But this is not the case.

Vovan, I think your best option is to get one in used condition out of Europe. Alternatively, adapt a tank out of some other vehicle.
The used tanks often get stained but can be cleaned up.

Keep in mind that there was a float sensor in the tank. Same as the one used for the washer fluid tank. The float on the sensor goes bad. I had previously found alternative float sensor that was easy to adapt but that source has closed down.
Discussed here https://forum.merkurclub.com/forum/view ... 11#p359411

It is possible to make a new float for the sensor - 3d printed or otherwise.
The Ford list price for those new was likely $400 if not more. Only fit '89 Merkurs which sold in low numbers.

Don't like the vendor price? Wait for it to drop. Or, best choice, swallow and move on.

FYI, re the coolant reservoir float sensor, I've replaced two coolant sensors (separate cars) with the washer fluid sensors years ago with no issues. No need to 3D print one.

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Of course it makes sense to buy it at $400. You are restoring the car (nicely!). You want the engine bay to look very well. The coolant reservoir in plain view stands out to eyeballs of guests admiring the e fine bay.. And the Huge Plus of paying the price for it is the color of the coolant will be easily perceived by admirers as well as yourself. That's something you can only get with a perfect new reservoir.

And Dean, you are out of touch with the Merkur community which indeed has some deep-er pocketed owners than you or Vovan e.g. who do not blink at snapping up rare NOS items at prices we balk at. I can name names if you doubt that.

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Ed Lijewski wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 10:50 am Of course it makes sense to buy it at $400. You are restoring the car (nicely!). You want the engine bay to look very well. The coolant reservoir in plain view stands out to eyeballs of guests admiring the e fine bay.. And the Huge Plus of paying the price for it is the color of the coolant will be easily perceived by admirers as well as yourself. That's something you can only get with a perfect new reservoir.

And Dean, you are out of touch with the Merkur community which indeed has some deep-er pocketed owners than you or Vovan e.g. who do not blink at snapping up rare NOS items at prices we balk at. I can name names if you doubt that.

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It's just unreasonable. A plastic tank can't have that price, and it won't look that good for long. You can also wash an old tank until it's almost new. Today I found one online for $8, so I can buy 50 tanks for every year of my life.
If you think this tank can cost $400. Please buy it and we will see that you are not joking.
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Re: Antifreeze tank

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Ed Lijewski wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 10:40 am
brokencase wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:06 pm
Ed Lijewski wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 1:42 pm So basic: Demand and Supply (for '89 style coolant reservoirs in new/NEW! condition).
YMMV
No Ed, $400 is nuts. Supply is low, but demand is low also.

If Scorpios were valued as highly as Ferraris then a $400 coolant tank would not be beyond expectation.
But this is not the case.

Vovan, I think your best option is to get one in used condition out of Europe. Alternatively, adapt a tank out of some other vehicle.
The used tanks often get stained but can be cleaned up.

Keep in mind that there was a float sensor in the tank. Same as the one used for the washer fluid tank. The float on the sensor goes bad. I had previously found alternative float sensor that was easy to adapt but that source has closed down.
Discussed here https://forum.merkurclub.com/forum/view ... 11#p359411

It is possible to make a new float for the sensor - 3d printed or otherwise.
The Ford list price for those new was likely $400 if not more. Only fit '89 Merkurs which sold in low numbers.

Don't like the vendor price? Wait for it to drop. Or, best choice, swallow and move on.

FYI, re the coolant reservoir float sensor, I've replaced two coolant sensors (separate cars) with the washer fluid sensors years ago with no issues. No need to 3D print one.

YMMV
I think you're wrong. These sensors are exactly the same on all European Fords of that era, and they're not expensive at all. I bought a pair last weekend for a few dollars. They weren't new, but they were fine, and there's really nothing to break, so they're not in demand.
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Vovan wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 11:09 am
Ed Lijewski wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 10:40 am
brokencase wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:06 pm

No Ed, $400 is nuts. Supply is low, but demand is low also.

If Scorpios were valued as highly as Ferraris then a $400 coolant tank would not be beyond expectation.
But this is not the case.

Vovan, I think your best option is to get one in used condition out of Europe. Alternatively, adapt a tank out of some other vehicle.
The used tanks often get stained but can be cleaned up.

Keep in mind that there was a float sensor in the tank. Same as the one used for the washer fluid tank. The float on the sensor goes bad. I had previously found alternative float sensor that was easy to adapt but that source has closed down.
Discussed here https://forum.merkurclub.com/forum/view ... 11#p359411

It is possible to make a new float for the sensor - 3d printed or otherwise.
The Ford list price for those new was likely $400 if not more. Only fit '89 Merkurs which sold in low numbers.

Don't like the vendor price? Wait for it to drop. Or, best choice, swallow and move on.

FYI, re the coolant reservoir float sensor, I've replaced two coolant sensors (separate cars) with the washer fluid sensors years ago with no issues. No need to 3D print one.

YMMV
I think you're wrong. These sensors are exactly the same on all European Fords of that era, and they're not expensive at all. I bought a pair last weekend for a few dollars. They weren't new, but they were fine, and there's really nothing to break, so they're not in demand.
You misread my comment. I said nothing about cost for usedf float sensors. Many here harvested them from junk yard cars for free.

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Re: Antifreeze tank

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Vovan wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 11:03 am
Ed Lijewski wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 10:50 am Of course it makes sense to buy it at $400. You are restoring the car (nicely!). You want the engine bay to look very well. The coolant reservoir in plain view stands out to eyeballs of guests admiring the e fine bay.. And the Huge Plus of paying the price for it is the color of the coolant will be easily perceived by admirers as well as yourself. That's something you can only get with a perfect new reservoir.

And Dean, you are out of touch with the Merkur community which indeed has some deep-er pocketed owners than you or Vovan e.g. who do not blink at snapping up rare NOS items at prices we balk at. I can name names if you doubt that.

YMMV
It's just unreasonable. A plastic tank can't have that price, and it won't look that good for long. You can also wash an old tank until it's almost new. Today I found one online for $8, so I can buy 50 tanks for every year of my life.
If you think this tank can cost $400. Please buy it and we will see that you are not joking.
So wash your old tank.

And move on.

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Re: Antifreeze tank

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The sensors are a little harder to find over here Vovan. The sensor was probably shared among European Fords but not the case in the US.
I looked previously into this.

But the ones I found here https://forum.merkurclub.com/forum/view ... 11#p359411 worked and will last a long time. They were only a few bucks.

Ed is stating you can interchange the sensors between washer with the radiator tank. True, but that assumes one has a spare parts car laying around to steal parts from.

The only part of the sensor that goes bad is the float. So, given the lack of spares here in US, it does make sense to 3d print or otherwise fabricate just the float part of the sensor to effect a repair.

Anyway - Glad you found a tank at a reasonable price.
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Ed Lijewski wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2024 10:50 am And Dean, you are out of touch with the Merkur community which indeed has some deep-er pocketed owners than you or Vovan e.g. who do not blink at snapping up rare NOS items at prices we balk at. I can name names if you doubt that.
I would like to hear a shout out of from someone on this forum who paid $400 for a radiator tank (preferably not from the guy selling said tank or any shill)

I'm sorry Ed, the resell value of even an exceptional Scorpio cannot justify the expenditure of $400 on a rad tank.
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