My Build Thread: Project "Rain Cloud"

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New intake? check. Still lots left to do (new turbo coolant feed line, wastegate bracket, sort the PCV, mount the alt and other small things I'm sure I'm missing).

Old intake out:

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New dipstick mount made as it went to the upper before:

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Alt mounting bracket removed:

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Intake in and mounted. Ignore the wild vacuum line for the PCV. It's not permanent, just some extra line I had left over and was trying to figure out if I want to mount a catch can or keep it a closed system.

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Driver's side:

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I'm pretty pumped for the total 2' TOPS of IC piping I'm going to have now compared to who knows how much there was with the 1st setup I had.

Here's what the intake alone looks like:

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Ported and smoothed heavily and the inline where it meets the plenum is heavily worked as well. SHOULD make a nice difference. And if not...still cleans up the engine bay noticeably. I never want to remove this thing again...the lower bolts were quite fun going back in.
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Looks good Joe. How much longer until this thing is drivable again? Think you'll have her ready for Sunday's autocross?
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Ray wrote:Looks good Joe. How much longer until this thing is drivable again? Think you'll have her ready for Sunday's autocross?
Thanks. Probably a month or so. I won't be working on it for another few weeks and then will have to buy the new IC piping after I get it all set and done...then tune, but that's the easy part.
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More progress done this weekend. Was able to get the wastegate bracket finished along with a much cleaner looking offset arm which was needed due to where it mounts on the larger compressor housing. Braided coolant feed for the turbo done and installed, IAC and TPS wiring extended and loomed, IC piping complete, alternator relocated and wired up. Still waiting on an in-line use for the hot lead to the alt.

Few pics. Coolant feed. First time working with AN line. Took me a few cuts to get the first fitting on and then got the 2nd on first try:

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Installed and in car. This was necessary since I wanted to keep water cooling to the CHRA, but was nearly impossible with an internal gate setup and the Cossie housing with the way I have the compressor clocked. I may shorten the oil feed as well since it looks stupid that long as it's made for a center mount manifold:

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Had to relocate the alternator from the top driver's side to where the AC compressor was. Took Ray's idea and modified it for my application since I still run the v-belts and his car has the Non Stop Tuning pullies. Had to modify the AC bracket, add a turnbuckle fastened to the fender, 61" belt and a 3/8" rod for a pivot bolt with spacers on each side to align the pulley. Unfortunately, I can't run the inner belt, but there is enough bite where none of the accessories slip.

Modified bracket:

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Alternator mounted in the car and tensioned:

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Intake setup complete. Still have the crazy vacuum line for the PCV, but that will be fixed soon along with some other minor dress-up items such as a bigger t-bolt on the TB (3" wouldn't fit) putting a hose clamp back on the filter which is currently on the TB and putting the heatshield back in:

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Cold side piping with BOV and IAT:

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Front shot:

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Passenger side:

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Quick idle clip. Can definitely hear a lot of resonance in the plenum. Really changed the motor note in the bay:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkHLoGq6nxY


Overall, successful weekend. Ran into a few snags.

Snag #1

The intake I have now is based on an inline lower which you can see here:

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Compared to the one that comes in the XR4Ti which is the Four Square:

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Notice the fuel rail mounting bosses are different which require a specific fuel rail which I had, no problem. What I didn't notice is the four square intake uses a spacer plate between the FPR and the rail which I transferred to the inline rail. The inline rail has a machined recess for the gasket so it does not need to the spacer plate. Fired car up and showered the whole side of the motor in fuel. So...remove the rail (which led to snag #2) and remove the plate after I noticed the recess.

#2: Snapped one of the plastic fuel clips for the return line for the rail, but Advance Auto had a selection of Ford clips so I grabbed a set of these which I broke:

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And a set of duckbill clips since it's just a matter of time before the factory ones break:

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#3: While working Friday evening (maybe 30minutes in) cutting the old wastegate bracket up, the angle grinder dug into to the bracket and hit my left middle finger, cut about half way though. Few hours and 3 stitches later, completed everything else above.

Hope to put the insurance back on the car and put some miles on next weekend.
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Nice work joe :)

no pics of the finger?
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Ray wrote:Nice work joe :)

no pics of the finger?
Thanks. I took one pre and one post stitches picture, but figured no one wanted to see those :lol:
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Cruised with my buddy Chad on Sunday and got a ride. He was impressed...then took me for a ride in his. I've got nothing on a built 496 on DR's that runs mid 10's :eek:

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New brakes!

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Yesterday while ALMOST finished bleeding the system, pedal went straight to the floor. Thought we may have ingested some air, but even better. Master was pissing fluid between the flange and the booster. Had lost the seals inside, probably from the what looked like original fluid and gunk still in the reservoir. Quick call to Advance Auto and had a rebuilt master here today which Ray and I (mostly Ray) installed. Also, was able to snag his old reservoir which was in better shape than mine (the later 87+ setup which he now has used a different reservoir so this was only a spare). I may upgrade later down the road as the increased bore diameter (15/16" vs 7/8") helps pedal feel a bit with the increase fluid volume in the calipers.

New master installed along with a freshly-cleaned reservoir:

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For S&G's I pulled the old master apart and the seals inside were pretty gunked up. Bore was smooth so definitely rebuildable, but kits cost more than a rebuilt master which comes with a lifetime warranty. Also, I could only find kits for the 15/16" bore later style and not my 7/8" so moot point.

SOOOO thankful the master let go at Ray's and not driving. Car had ZERO brakes...to the point where brakes to the floor wouldn't stop the car from rolling the rear in 1st at idle. It looks like the leak has been slow for a while, but flushing the old fluid was what did it in. While the car was down for the night, I took the valve cover with me and freshened it up. Personally and seems an opinion shared by others as well, the nasty cover really detracted from everything else I've done in the engine bay.

So, off the cover came:

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Cleaned up all the oxidation and removed all the old paint. Shot with VHT wrinkle:

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Then hit the letters with some Ford Blue engine enamel:

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Polished:

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Cleared and cured:

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On the car:

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Major improvement IMO and installed a new Ford gasket as well ($46!!!!), but this one is reusable and should stop the slow weep I had.

Next up is replacing the output shaft seal on the transmission and enjoying the car. Big props to Ray for the 3 or 4 hands he seems to be able to offer and the storage of the car last night.
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Yeah. No problem. Glad things only had one hiccup, no bolts broke, and the master let go on stands and not when you actually NEEDED brakes.

How does the car feel now? Less scary?
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Car feels much better. Pedal still is soft, assuming from the increased volume in the caliper, but when you get on them, the car STOPS. Much more confidence in it now.
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No brakes is scary. I had a brake line let go in my truck. It came to stop, while I'm thinking, huh, that's weird the peddle is squishy, and then it started driving into the intersection on its own. :shock:
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BeefFajitas wrote:No brakes is scary. I had a brake line let go in my truck. It came to stop, while I'm thinking, huh, that's weird the peddle is squishy, and then it started driving into the intersection on its own. :shock:
Yeesh :shock:

I lost a brake line in my Focus, but thankfully it was in my driveway before doing an oil change. That two for two...I have a feeling I won't be so lucky next time :?
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Smaller updates from today. Also, please disregard the washers spacing down the trans mount (there to align the DS. With no spacers that crossmember attempts to put the trans through the floor. Will be cutting spacers the appropriate length) and the tape sealing the much larger shifter hole (making a plate to cover the old hole and attaching with self-tappers).

R&R of the WC T5 output shaft seal. Part # S-7692S
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp ... 2-P_1203_R

Cheap and pretty easy job. Longest part is removing the DS bolts on this car (allen-head cap screws with loctite) and dropping a section of the exhaust (2-band clamps and a hanger).

DS and exhaust out, old leaky seal:

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You can see I've already started to remove the seal. Started with a small awl to get under the lip and then a pick and a hammer to bend the lip up and get the seal started. After there is enough lip to work with, a pry bar will pop it out if you turn the blade to pry against the tail housing.

Old seal out:

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Driveshaft side of the old and new seal:

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Much beefier dust boot and made a tight seal on the yolk.

Transmission side of the seals:

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New seal has a double lip while the one in the car had a single. Should hopefully seal better (no leaks yet, knock on wood).

I read horror stories on the Mustang boards about ruining the seal on the install so I was a bit wary. Ended up using a spare piece of 16ga 2.75" pipe I had from one of my intake fabs. Fit the seal perfectly:

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Lubricated the flange and rubber lip with some ATF before install. Definitely not easy alone, but grabbed my brother to hold the pipe in place after I had the seal started by hand:

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Put a block of wood over the pipe and hammered it home with a mini-sledge. Took only a couple taps and it was seated evenly against the tail housing.

Done!

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Also installed an 1/8" drain sourced from Sears for less than $2. Drill a 5/16" hole into a nearly brand new $200 radiator, tap and install. Simple and no longer have to remove the lower hose and make a mess to change the coolant. Still running straight water in the car to test for leaks. Looks solid so far:

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This time off thing is so foreign to me. I logged into work and checked my 'billable' hours so far this year. Just passed 1,000hours, does not include time I wasn't directly working for clients, which explains the SLOW progress so far this year. Still have another week off so hoping to finish projects that are nearly done, just need to be cleaned up like the trans mount.
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Few more updates. Car has been having an intermittent overheating problem that seems to be narrowed down to the line I used to delete the heater control valve. Going to fix that to keep the overflow as the highest point in the system and hopefully that solves the issue. Water pump has been changed in the meantime to rule that out and flushed the coolant system a few times. Also have a 2nd fan en-route to keep temps under control. The single 12" I have isn't enough for stop and go in the summer or autox duty.

Alternator went so used the opportunity to install a 3G alt from a Taurus. MUCH better voltage at idle which is a great help having the Essy pulleys. Was able to just modify some wiring, change the spacers used in my relocation, swap pulleys, and good to go. Cost was $25 and 30minutes to pull at a local yard. Can't beat it!

Both alternators with pulleys removed. 3G on the left, XR on the right:

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Comparison:

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After a few intermediate steps...all done!

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The full thread I did on the swap if anyone is interested:

http://forum.wickedfunctionracing.com/f ... 30&t=20603

Was able to run the car this past weekend at autocross and give CP a class (finally). Had a BLAST and the car with the larger turbo feels right at home at these longer events. In boost most of the course and power is right where it needs to be. Definite limiting factor after driver skill is suspension, diff and tires.

Couple pics:

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Parents also came since they've never been to an event and wanted to see what it was all about. They had a BLAST just spectating and got a video of one of my launches. Next time I visit I'll have to upload it.

Also, shot a video myself on the ride home. This is through the full 3" exhaust. Had an idea, decided to play with the spark tables and made fun, loud flames happen. Fun for autocross, not so friendly for the street. Thankfully, it takes 10 seconds to change back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3J6lnr5DFdY
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:lol:

Where is the overrun table in there? Does that affect your startup or on throttle driving? That's hilarity.
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