40bob may make an DOHC head

KingpinCEO · Post by **KingpinCEO** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 9:56 pm

AlexD wrote:http://www.turboford.org/ubb/ultimatebb ... 3;t=014371

for those of you that don't go to turboford.

40bob is doin the damn thing

retrningXR4Timan · Post by **retrningXR4Timan** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 10:05 pm

i just happen to be at PM motorsports today. phil has a volvo 16v head that he's working on for his race car. he just did a mock header to fit an incredibly huge turbo. the numbers were 1.02 a/r i think on the turbo. i'm guessing he will use his own plenum intake as well. he did a volvo head for another customer a few years ago also.
i had asked him about the volvo head a while ago and he said he'll do it if a custom request it but he'd rather go with the stock set up since it can get high hp# from it. i guess 623.5 hp isn't enough for him to continue using the stock head configuration.
so my next question is, what are the benefits of going with the volvo head over the stock head besides the extra valves?

SuperCollasus · Post by **SuperCollasus** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 10:46 pm

I think that's pretty cool. Very cool, actually. I would like to know the flow numbers vs. the $$$. The Esslinger aluminum D port head flows more than the DOHC conversion assuming the volvo head is stock.

More info here:

http://www.merkurtech.com/merkurtech/te ... tem045.php

Then add an stand alone system and ignition box and custome header and intakes.

By the time you are done with just the head and added goodies according to the TF link you are well into $6k-$7K. For that price you can go 5.0ltr with a stroked motor and loads of goodies (cause 5.0ltr mods are waaay cheaper) and wipe a 2.3 all day!

* Note * I am not knocking the 2.3... its cool and I am striving, myself, to build my set up off the ol' lima block. Just thought I'd mention that!

Post by **DPDISXR4Ti** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 10:54 pm

AlexD wrote:if 40bod was to get the original 2.3 DOHC head prototype, and just copy that it would be alot easier to do, and cheaper.

Not really true at all. Where would you source the non-existant cams, lifters, valves, springs, etc from? Furthermore, the prototype head had problems - it was not ready for production. There are better ways to approach this, and Bob is well aware of them. That said, it remains to be seen if it can be done unless profitability is not an issue. Oh, right, I forgot... Jay Leno is going to fund it!

fastmaul · Post by **fastmaul** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 11:27 pm

Ahhh just drop in a YB.

KingpinCEO · Post by **KingpinCEO** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 11:34 pm

i saw that volvo head with the black valve cover the last time i was there... i meant to ask him who's the next victim. now i know its himself.

uhoh.

edge · Post by **edge** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 3:22 am

SuperCollasus wrote:I think that's pretty cool. Very cool, actually. I would like to know the flow numbers vs. the $$$. The Esslinger aluminum D port head flows more than the DOHC conversion assuming the volvo head is stock.

More info here:

http://www.merkurtech.com/merkurtech/te ... tem045.php

Then add an stand alone system and ignition box and custome header and intakes.

By the time you are done with just the head and added goodies according to the TF link you are well into $6k-$7K. For that price you can go 5.0ltr with a stroked motor and loads of goodies (cause 5.0ltr mods are waaay cheaper) and wipe a 2.3 all day!

* Note * I am not knocking the 2.3... its cool and I am striving, myself, to build my set up off the ol' lima block. Just thought I'd mention that!

I agree with this, thinking over 5,000 might as well as drop in the V8 and get a lot more torque. High HP is nice but doesn't get you moving.

I'm also building up the 2.3 and if the price was around that of a esslinger head I would get it for my one xr. Now if my 87 parts car has a good enough undercarriage (salt belt) the 89 is gone underneath, I'm thinking about putting the V8 in it, witha solid 9" rear end tubbed and all the good stuff for drag racing.

fastmaul · Post by **fastmaul** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 12:00 pm

I like the V8 idea,
but nothing puts a smile on my face more than beating a V8

xrian · Post by **xrian** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 12:53 pm

Ya baby!!!!!

KingpinCEO · Post by **KingpinCEO** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 2:09 pm

for real.. i love when people think Xr4ti's have V6's or something.. my father knew it had a mustang engine, but he had no idea it was the 4cyl svo.

some people ask and when i say 4 they go

??

then single head cam

fastmaul · Post by **fastmaul** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:09 pm

xrian wrote:Ya baby!!!!!

couple of years ago at carlisle, I was falling Ian around because we were both lost!! (lol) then a firebird comes up next to us, Ian gave the ole boy a run for his money! I told Taryn, damn that XR is fast!!. my little stock XR was keeping up though.

88_WRC_Replica · Post by **88_WRC_Replica** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 10:13 am

This will never ever happen. Most owners complain about spending a few hundred dollars on their cars let along a few thousand for a head.

Next question would be how much is the intake manifold the new throttle body all the custom intercooler piping the exhaust manifold. etc etc etc

This will never happen.

Nick A · Post by **Nick A** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 2:45 pm

88_WRC_Replica wrote:This will never ever happen. Most owners complain about spending a few hundred dollars on their cars let along a few thousand for a head.

Next question would be how much is the intake manifold the new throttle body all the custom intercooler piping the exhaust manifold. etc etc etc

This will never happen.

Wow!

Most of us were eager to eat our new bowl of Cheerios, then you came along and pee'd in it!

fastmaul · Post by **fastmaul** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 3:34 pm

you'll see you guys never had spoons to begin with!

Simon's not pissing on your bowl, it's the sad truth.
How many "You paid HOW MUCH for that car??" comments are made?
followed by the....My XR sucks! it keeps breaking down, but I only paid
200 dollars for it. LOL.

I would/will happily pay $1,500 -$2,000 for a very good condition XR.

Post by **jasonty** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 4:10 pm

all so very true indeed

fastmaul wrote:you'll see you guys never had spoons to begin with! :wink:
Simon's not pissing on your bowl, it's the sad truth.
How many "You paid HOW MUCH for that car??" comments are made?
followed by the....My XR sucks! it keeps breaking down, but I only paid
200 dollars for it. LOL.

I would/will happily pay $1,500 -$2,000 for a very good condition XR. :D